Comments on: EBM and industry http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12 Comments on the medical literature Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:30:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: A MD http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12/comment-page-1#comment-2419 A MD Sun, 22 May 2005 11:01:51 +0000 http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12#comment-2419 Dude. It's easy to lie with statistics. It's also far easier to lie without them. PS. The best stance to take re: Big PhRMA is that proposed by <a Href="http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2005/05/is-adversary-model-answer.html" rel="nofollow">Lee Green MD MPH</a>. Dude.

It’s easy to lie with statistics.

It’s also far easier to lie without them.

PS. The best stance to take re: Big PhRMA is that proposed by Lee Green MD MPH.

]]> By: mjmd http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12/comment-page-1#comment-2270 mjmd Sat, 07 May 2005 12:48:45 +0000 http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12#comment-2270 Very apropos this post is an <a href="http://medrants.com/archives/2005/04/21/pharmaceutical-ghost-writing/" rel="nofollow">item</a> posted on DB's medical rants on April 21 about pharmaceutical information companies planting articles in the medical literature. Very apropos this post is an item posted on DB’s medical rants on April 21 about pharmaceutical information companies planting articles in the medical literature.

]]> By: mjmd http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12/comment-page-1#comment-134 mjmd Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:56:48 +0000 http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12#comment-134 If we demand data, and the pharmaceutical companies deliver that data, why am I criticizing them? My point is really more about EBM than about the pharmaceuticals. What I'm saying is that EBM is not a magic bullet, and drug companies can adapt quite well to it, thank you. I don't want to get into the attack/defend pharmaceutical companies thing, here. I just think that proponents of EBM sometimes tout it as almost a magic potion. It's not. As the saying goes, "lies, damn lies and statistics". Statistics aren't lies, but they're not a guarantee of the unvarnished truth, either. If we demand data, and the pharmaceutical companies deliver that data, why am I criticizing them?

My point is really more about EBM than about the pharmaceuticals. What I’m saying is that EBM is not a magic bullet, and drug companies can adapt quite well to it, thank you.

I don’t want to get into the attack/defend pharmaceutical companies thing, here. I just think that proponents of EBM sometimes tout it as almost a magic potion. It’s not. As the saying goes, “lies, damn lies and statistics”. Statistics aren’t lies, but they’re not a guarantee of the unvarnished truth, either.

]]> By: John http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12/comment-page-1#comment-131 John Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:58:31 +0000 http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12#comment-131 I'm not sure I understand the implication here. If EBT is designed to weed out hype, and if the pharmaceutical companies are now using it to promote their products, does it not therefore follow that the data they are putting forth means that their communications are accurate? I'm not defending the industry as a whole, but aren't they the ones that make the drugs that save patients' lives? Must we assume that everything they touch is tainted? I’m not sure I understand the implication here. If EBT is designed to weed out hype, and if the pharmaceutical companies are now using it to promote their products, does it not therefore follow that the data they are putting forth means that their communications are accurate? I’m not defending the industry as a whole, but aren’t they the ones that make the drugs that save patients’ lives? Must we assume that everything they touch is tainted?

]]> By: antifaust http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12/comment-page-1#comment-45 antifaust Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:16:21 +0000 http://www.journalclub.org/2004/10/29/n12#comment-45 <strong>links for 2004-11-14</strong> EBM and Industry This post reminds us that Evidence Based Medicine can also be used as a tool by the pharmaceutical industry. (categories: EBM)... links for 2004-11-14
EBM and Industry This post reminds us that Evidence Based Medicine can also be used as a tool by the pharmaceutical industry. (categories: EBM)…

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